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From: Steven J. Wallace [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:08 PM
To: 'Nehemias A. Hayuhay'; 'Wallace H. Little'; 'Steve Wallace (Germany)'
Subject: MDR, DBR QUESTIONS
I was only ignorant of your abbreviations. Please forgive. "Ignorance".
. .such is what you display. . .if I may say bluntly. I haven't told anyone
to distance themselves from you. I don't even know you accept for these
emails. I have heard of Wallace Little but not you until recently. I don't
know that I have told anyone in your country to distance themselves from
him? However, I assume that you are both in agreement to your posts and
therefore I will more boldly raise a "red flag" when anyone
asks me about either of you.
You are, however, as mistaken about what "I have done," as you
are about the gospel of Jesus Christ. Yes Paul taught about the "Death,"
Burial," and "Resurrection." Had you consulted my website:
www.sunnysidechurchofchrist.com you would find a host of material teaching
about the "death, burial and resurrection" of Jesus Christ.
But there is one important thing that you are "wresting" from
the scriptures. The "death, burial, and resurrection" of Christ
must be applied to the sinner in the transformation or conversion of one
into a saint. Please compare 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 with Romans 6:1-9. Baptism
is the meeting place of the grace of God and the faith of men. That meeting
place of the grace of God (death, burial, resurrection of Christ) and
the faith of man (death to sin, burial with Christ, rising into Life's
newness) is found in "baptism." "Reconciliation" is
in the "death" of Christ (Rom. 5:8-10). Yet, baptism is in "the
death" of Christ (Rom. 6:3, 4). Yet, in studying the Bible's teaching
on baptism, you would find that "repentance" goes before "DBR!"
Paul was talking to the Corinthians who were baptized into the "DBR"
of Christ (Acts 18:1-8) but who also first repented of their sins of fornication
and homosexuality (1 Cor. 6:9-11).
"Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you
be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and
you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Acts 2:38
REPENT + BAPTISM = REMISSION OF SINS
If you neglect the "repentance" then all you do is get wet,
not baptized into Christ. Now, a fornicator, an adulterer, a homosexual
has to learn that living in Christ means a repudiation of former sins--a
crucifying of the man of sin (Rom. 6:6), "our old man is crucified."
One cannot be married to another who is not his "God-bound"
spouse and be baptized and remain in that pseudo-marriage of fornication.
Can one be joined to a harlot and the Lord? I have a feeling from your
last two responses that you would sanctify that marriage that was created
and maintained it in sin. You would not have the courage to do like John
who told Herod, one "married" to Herodias, saying, "It
is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife" (Mk. 16:18).
Rather, you would have responded to John:
* <<Are you divorce? If not, why are you
so concern on divorcement?>>
* <<You're ignorance of the Bible caused you to be judgmental of
* <<I observed from our exchanges that you are more concern on MDR
rather than DBR. Remember that the power of God for Salvation is the DBR
* <<Do you intend to corrupt the mind of a faithful couple with
your agenda on divorce and remarried? Or let them alone in thier faithfulness
to each other?>>
Why not show me where the New Testament teaches that a couple who were
formerly divorced and remarried are commanded to be "faithful to
each other" when they divorced their former mates for any other reason
than fornication? I want "book, chapter and verse." Jesus said
that if you married one who has been divorced you commit adultery
Lu 16:18 "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits
adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits
The only exception is that when one divorces their mate for fornication
they are permitted by the Lord to remarry one who is "in the Lord"
or authorized by God.
Regarding Galatians 1:6-9? I expect answers to the following questions:
1. Can you prove by the "context" that the people were twisting
"DBR?" If so, how? Please give all references from Galatians?
2. If you cannot prove that "DBR" is in the context, what 'particular'
or 'specific' is Paul condemning?
3. What is the central contention that the book of Galatians addresses?
By that, I mean what controversy is Paul confronting? Please cite references?
4. Is that point of "contention" that Paul address in this book
a violation of the gospel? Say if it is binding circumcision/Jewish practices,
is such then a violation of the gospel?
5. If it is, can we also apply Galatians 1 to other areas of false teaching
besides circumcision/Jewish practices or are we limited in doing so? Are
there other ways to pervert the gospel?
6. What is the "doctrine of Christ" in 2 John 9? How might one
violate that passage?
7. Is "DBR" the only doctrine that we need to concern ourselves
over as to identifying who is a false teacher?
8. What is Jesus' law regarding the one who divorces his wife for "any
reason" and marries another?
9. Do you teach that one must repent prior to being baptized into Christ?
I will have more questions coming when I get answers to these. Please
be specific. I also want references from scripture. The Bible tells us
to "Test the spirits" (1 Jn. 4:1) and so now I intend to test
you seeing that you want to continue your emailing. I will then be able
to warn others of your persuasion when and if they ask me. I will use
your own emails and your own answers as proof. They will tell whether
you are dodging the questions or decoding scripture with a slanted view.
They will tell whether you are running from the Bible's answer or "giving
an answer" according to truth (1 Pet. 3:15). I apologize if I have
come across too abrasive in these emails. That is one thing that I do
not like about email, in that, it leaves out a personal touch. I shall
await your answers. I am not interested in any reply unless these questions
are answered specifically.
Steven J. Wallace
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